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i understand that for starters the first offer isnt always the most legit offer, but how you gonna start off by offering a percentage coonsiderably lower than what you gave Parker??



They are hoping its insulting enough to Wilder that he will not even respond, and they can then claim Wilder doesn't want it.


exactly. just like they banned him from entering the ring but then scream oh if you really wanted the fight you wouldve been there.


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how you send a contract without a time and place for the fight?? did they write it out in crayon too?? :rofl:



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An offer is not a contract. The contract is created once the offer is accepted. This is a basic rule of business. And why would there be a time and place for the fight before any sort of agreement?! Shirley dumb misdirection.

Let's start negotiating!


So you think offering a flat fee is a real offer?


lil Chrissy swallows up any and everything these fools throw out there. Joshua already watching film on Povetkin.


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Point is team Shirley should just get down and negotiate if they're serious, instead of dissing publicly so early in the negotiation. Complaining there's 'no time and place written in the offer' makes no sense and just comes across as misdirection


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how you send a contract without a time and place for the fight?? did they write it out in crayon too?? :rofl:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



An offer is not a contract. The contract is created once the offer is accepted. This is a basic rule of business. And why would there be a time and place for the fight before any sort of agreement?! Shirley dumb misdirection.

Let's start negotiating!


So you think offering a flat fee is a real offer?


lil Chrissy swallows up any and everything these fools throw out there. Joshua already watching film on Povetkin.


Haha yeah yeah. AUSTIN POWERS... SWALLOWS BRONZE MEMBER FO SHO!

Point is team Shirley should just get down and negotiate if they're serious, instead of dissing publicly so early in the negotiation. Complaining there's 'no time and place written in the offer' makes no sense and just comes across as misdirection


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how you send a contract without a time and place for the fight?? did they write it out in crayon too?? :rofl:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



An offer is not a contract. The contract is created once the offer is accepted. This is a basic rule of business. And why would there be a time and place for the fight before any sort of agreement?! Shirley dumb misdirection.

Let's start negotiating!


So you think offering a flat fee is a real offer?


lil Chrissy swallows up any and everything these fools throw out there. Joshua already watching film on Povetkin.


Haha yeah yeah. AUSTIN POWERS... SWALLOWS BRONZE MEMBER FO SHO!

Point is team Shirley should just get down and negotiate if they're serious, instead of dissing publicly so early in the negotiation. Complaining there's 'no time and place written in the offer' makes no sense and just comes across as misdirection


well they have only 48 hours, even less now, to negotiate the take it or leave it offer. :iamwithstupid:

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Yall asking Chris the wrong shit.

Do you think that flat fee is fair chris?

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how you send a contract without a time and place for the fight?? did they write it out in crayon too?? :rofl:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



An offer is not a contract. The contract is created once the offer is accepted. This is a basic rule of business. And why would there be a time and place for the fight before any sort of agreement?! Shirley dumb misdirection.

Let's start negotiating!


So you think offering a flat fee is a real offer?



I asked that shit already! LOL


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how you send a contract without a time and place for the fight?? did they write it out in crayon too?? :rofl:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



An offer is not a contract. The contract is created once the offer is accepted. This is a basic rule of business. And why would there be a time and place for the fight before any sort of agreement?! Shirley dumb misdirection.

Let's start negotiating!


So you think offering a flat fee is a real offer?


lil Chrissy swallows up any and everything these fools throw out there. Joshua already watching film on Povetkin.


Haha yeah yeah. AUSTIN POWERS... SWALLOWS BRONZE MEMBER FO SHO!

Point is team Shirley should just get down and negotiate if they're serious, instead of dissing publicly so early in the negotiation. Complaining there's 'no time and place written in the offer' makes no sense and just comes across as misdirection


well they have only 48 hours, even less now, to negotiate the take it or leave it offer. :iamwithstupid:



Well that must be true if Shirley said it, and Wilder will fight Brezeale for $1.2 Million instead lol


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how you send a contract without a time and place for the fight?? did they write it out in crayon too?? :rofl:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



An offer is not a contract. The contract is created once the offer is accepted. This is a basic rule of business. And why would there be a time and place for the fight before any sort of agreement?! Shirley dumb misdirection.

Let's start negotiating!


So you think offering a flat fee is a real offer?


lil Chrissy swallows up any and everything these fools throw out there. Joshua already watching film on Povetkin.


Haha yeah yeah. AUSTIN POWERS... SWALLOWS BRONZE MEMBER FO SHO!

Point is team Shirley should just get down and negotiate if they're serious, instead of dissing publicly so early in the negotiation. Complaining there's 'no time and place written in the offer' makes no sense and just comes across as misdirection


well they have only 48 hours, even less now, to negotiate the take it or leave it offer. :iamwithstupid:



Well that must be true if Shirley said it, and Wilder will fight Brezeale for $1.2 Million instead lol


so its not true then. ok. whats the truth??


and do you think the flat fee offer is fair, assuming its even true. :lol:

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Yall asking Chris the wrong shit.

Do you think that flat fee is fair chris?


It's a starting point. Not fair as a final offer, although still 5 times more than Wilder will make elsewhere.

If Hearn doesn't budge and I'm Wilder 'the baddest man on the planet' I'd have to consider it if I wanna be the undisputed and calling the shots going fwd


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how you send a contract without a time and place for the fight?? did they write it out in crayon too?? :rofl:



:lol: :lol: :lol:



An offer is not a contract. The contract is created once the offer is accepted. This is a basic rule of business. And why would there be a time and place for the fight before any sort of agreement?! Shirley dumb misdirection.

Let's start negotiating!


So you think offering a flat fee is a real offer?


lil Chrissy swallows up any and everything these fools throw out there. Joshua already watching film on Povetkin.


Haha yeah yeah. AUSTIN POWERS... SWALLOWS BRONZE MEMBER FO SHO!

Point is team Shirley should just get down and negotiate if they're serious, instead of dissing publicly so early in the negotiation. Complaining there's 'no time and place written in the offer' makes no sense and just comes across as misdirection


well they have only 48 hours, even less now, to negotiate the take it or leave it offer. :iamwithstupid:



Well that must be true if Shirley said it, and Wilder will fight Brezeale for $1.2 Million instead lol


so its not true then. ok. whats the truth??


and do you think the flat fee offer is fair, assuming its even true. :lol:



Well we've only heard noise from Shirley, Hearn denies making the offer for 8.8 million apparently

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6022606/ ... fer-money/

Guess it depends on who we chose to believe lol


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Yall asking Chris the wrong shit.

Do you think that flat fee is fair chris?


It's a starting point. Not fair as a final offer, although still 5 times more than Wilder will make elsewhere.

If Hearn doesn't budge and I'm Wilder 'the baddest man on the planet' I'd have to consider it if I wanna be the undisputed and calling the shots going fwd


even being true, thats such a bitchy thing to even consider. Same shit Floyd said about Manny when he wasnt yet serious about the fight and made him that BS offer. I do agree about thinking maybe Wilder should just call his bluff, maybe, but at the end of the day just man up with a real offer and fight the man.

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The whole wilder cant make more anywhere else doesnt hold. Neither can Joshua. Ultimately this is why this tactic didnt work with May Pac...because its based on bad math and bad logic.

But Ill settle for you admitting that its a bad for a final offer. Carry on arguing with Austin.

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nobody is arguing. Chrissy is my boy. :D

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The whole wilder cant make more anywhere else doesnt hold. Neither can Joshua. Ultimately this is why this tactic didnt work with May Pac...because its based on bad math and bad logic.

But Ill settle for you admitting that its a bad for a final offer. Carry on arguing with Austin.



Haha, no arguing here all friendly debate. I'm waiting for Hearns response to Shirleys claims. If everything Shirley saying is true no doubt its a bad offer but more likely Shirley's painting pictures with porky pies again. Either way its bad news for fans when one team is definitely not serious and playing games. This fight ain't happening any time soon.


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The whole wilder cant make more anywhere else doesnt hold. Neither can Joshua. Ultimately this is why this tactic didnt work with May Pac...because its based on bad math and bad logic.

But Ill settle for you admitting that its a bad for a final offer. Carry on arguing with Austin.



Haha, no arguing here all friendly debate. I'm waiting for Hearns response to Shirleys claims. If everything Shirley saying is true no doubt its a bad offer but more likely Shirley's painting pictures with porky pies again. Either way its bad news for fans when one team is definitely not serious and playing games. This fight ain't happening any time soon.



I get this feeling as well, and it sucks. There is no reason this fight should not be next. 65-35 for Joshua, to be fought in the UK. Boom, done.


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"this fight aint happening any time soon."


we agree on that. i think it'll ultimately be a sumner blockbuster in 2019. Now lets see if each guy fights once or twice from now 'til then, and against whom. we know Joshua is fighting Povetkin i guess in September or some shit. I wouldnt mind Wilder fighting Ortiz again, or Whyte, but i doubt he'll do Hearn the favor of fighting Whyte. Any noise about Brazeale can kick rocks.

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The whole wilder cant make more anywhere else doesnt hold. Neither can Joshua. Ultimately this is why this tactic didnt work with May Pac...because its based on bad math and bad logic.

But Ill settle for you admitting that its a bad for a final offer. Carry on arguing with Austin.



Haha, no arguing here all friendly debate. I'm waiting for Hearns response to Shirleys claims. If everything Shirley saying is true no doubt its a bad offer but more likely Shirley's painting pictures with porky pies again. Either way its bad news for fans when one team is definitely not serious and playing games. This fight ain't happening any time soon.



I get this feeling as well, and it sucks. There is no reason this fight should not be next. 65-35 for Joshua, to be fought in the UK. Boom, done.


Ageed 100%. If it doesn't happen it would be a hilarious lesson if they both get KO'd in their next fight. Povetkin has a shot, Brezeale not so much


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Disappointing. You guys need Jermz in here :lol: . This fight will happen. This is all Hearn gaming, and Joshua letting him. Wilder and them need to just game back, intelligently....and not hissy fit. Plenty of money to share.

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it aint happening this year i think is the point. i think next year is realistic.

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it aint happening this year i think is the point. i think next year is realistic.



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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.

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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


Shameful.


Wilder and Joshua need to pull the Manny Floyd and meet somewhere. Compare notes. Remember, Floyd and manny had to sit in a hotel for a few hours to clear some air to get their fight on track.

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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


Shameful.


Wilder and Joshua need to pull the Manny Floyd and meet somewhere. Compare notes. Remember, Floyd and manny had to sit in a hotel for a few hours to clear some air to get their fight on track.



Hearn will never let that happen.


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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


Shameful.


Wilder and Joshua need to pull the Manny Floyd and meet somewhere. Compare notes. Remember, Floyd and manny had to sit in a hotel for a few hours to clear some air to get their fight on track.



Hearn will never let that happen.


Im also not sure AJ and Wilder can be civil enough in person. Manny and Floyd are of a different stripe. Wilder and AJ are young hot headed idiots by comparison.

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