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 Post subject: Try to make a P4P list
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:48 pm 
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I'm seeing some crazy ass lists lol. In light of all the big fights, unifications and undisputed bouts, I'm wondering how everyone has it.

I am going to compile mine, but for sure my 1. And 2. Are Spence and Crawford.

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Crawford 1 and Spence 2.

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1.Crawford

2. Spence

3. Inoue

4. Canelo

5. Fury

6. Bivol

7. Beterbiev

8. Stevenson

9. Davis

10. Haney


Usyk and Charlos just miss out. Due to their competition. Joshua sucks now,cruiserweight has always sucked. 154 division sucks.

Stevenson over the other two around his weight cause he dominates everyone he faces and looks like a future #1.

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Loma goes from top 3 to not mentioned at all??

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Loma goes from top 3 to not mentioned at all??



He took a loss, came back against Commey, and took off again.2 losses in 18 fights, I mean he right around that 10 spot

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That's why i said try and make one, lol its kind of hard right now

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PLus i honestly think if he fought some of these young guys, the three I have around his weight, I think he taking an L.

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Yea it's definitely a hard exercise lol.

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Loma old got no strap and no big wins lately.

Drop him out. Put Charlotte in. Take out better. He's at 11. Loma 12.

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I cant put Charlo over Beterbiev. When Charlo has a loss to Tony Harrison and really took advantage of a garbage division. There's a reason why Danny wants to fight there lol

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Beterbiev is nice but who's at lt heavy....really???

Nah man. Charlo undisputed.

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Beterbiev destroyed the guy who almost killed Stevenson, Gvodyk or whatever his name was, trained by Teddy. Took his belt. Then beat up Browne amd destroyed Joe smith in two rounds. Along with some others.

I'll take that over tony harrison, jeison rosario, two guys who been slept before, and the Spanish kid he also needed two fights to beat clearly .

100% KO ratio. That's impressive.

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1 Crawford
2 Inoue
3 Usyk
4 Spence
5 Stevenson
6 Canelo
7 Haney
8 Bivol
9 Charlo
10 Davis


Looking ahead, the 2024 p4p future list will be

1 Crawford
2 Stevenson
3 Boots
4 Haney
5 Bivol
6 Inoue
7 Canelo
8 Spence
9 Usyk
10 ???


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I love Stevenson. He has 1 notable win. I get the "eye test" and such. But resumes get brought up so much when both upgrading and downgrading a fighters P4P status. I'm not even heavily arguing against his status, so please don't say idk shit about boxing. :lol: .....just saying he has a thin resume as of now.

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Stevenson resume is thin, but to me it's evident already that his style will have no problem dominating other divisions. Also has he even lost a round to be real? Some of the guys on the list I hate putting on because they're one division fighters and probably won't be as good in multiple divisions north.


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I dont think Boots will make it that far up the list. He looks like a guy with all the tools but bound to get knocked off outta nowhere or when he step his game up. He has had it too easy and clowns around a lot in the ring. Watching him fight past a couple rounds gets cringeworthy cause he starts fuckin around and clowning

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Aight Fook it.....



Spence

Crawford

Inoue

Fury

Usyk

Canelo

Tank

Haney

Loma

Charlo (154)

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My my how far weve come where Austin is putting ole Spencer at #1 :cool:

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Shu cho ass up. :lol:

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Ice is clearly looking for a fight from the white contingent on the board by not having either Loma or Usyk on his list. Either that or he is Russian opposition. :lol: :lol:

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Ice is clearly looking for a fight from the white contingent on the board by not having either Loma or Usyk on his list. Either that or he is Russian opposition. :lol: :lol:


Yea upon further review I don't think my list is black enough. :rofl:

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Crawford's best win is still the Gamboa fight and Crawford was getting hit up that entire fight and was out on his feet late in that fight. His resume is filled with has beens. I'm not saying Crawford isn't talented but we are going to see what he is really made of when he gets in the ring with Spence.

I cannot put Crawford as the P4P #1. What he is doing has not been as impressive as what Inoue has been doing, simply put. Or Usyk for that matter.

It's hard to make a list because am I basing it on undefeated guys like Crawford who really haven't fought great fighters in their prime or am I basing it on great fighters like Juan Francisco Estrada who have a few losses but have avenged those losses? Crawford's resume is not more impressive than Estrada's by any stretch of the imagination.

Beterbiev does not belong on the list. Neither does Haney. Are we anointing boxers for one supposed great performance like Haney's win over Kambosos??? I love Bivol but I am not even sure he should be on the list. Canelo was clearly just too outsized in that match so how great of a win is it really for Bivol?

And how can you rightfully have Bud over Spence when Spence's resume is better and he beat some of the same guys BEFORE Bud did?


My list would probably look like this:

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Canelo
4. Spence
5. Lomachenko
6. Estrada
7. Crawford
8. Fury
9. Tank
10. Stevenson

**Honorable mentions*** GGG, Nietes

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PLus i honestly think if he fought some of these young guys, the three I have around his weight, I think he taking an L.



You think Loma is losing to Tank, Haney, and others?

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Beterbiev destroyed the guy who almost killed Stevenson, Gvodyk or whatever his name was, trained by Teddy. Took his belt. Then beat up Browne amd destroyed Joe smith in two rounds. Along with some others.

I'll take that over tony harrison, jeison rosario, two guys who been slept before, and the Spanish kid he also needed two fights to beat clearly .

100% KO ratio. That's impressive.



These are good points but Beterbiev still does not belong on a top 10 list. You really think he is a top 10 boxer in the world?

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I love Stevenson. He has 1 notable win. I get the "eye test" and such. But resumes get brought up so much when both upgrading and downgrading a fighters P4P status. I'm not even heavily arguing against his status, so please don't say idk shit about boxing. :lol: .....just saying he has a thin resume as of now.



Valdez is as legit as it gets though with regard to being a proven champion. That is why Stevenson made my top 10. And it was a very dominant performance over Valdez. You have to give Stevenson his props for such a big win in dominating fashion.

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