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And another one in the books. The cop shot a black guy thinking she had a taser in hand.
Another traffic stop gone bad.

Every fucking day there are a hundred of lessor but criminal offenses.


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I took down my car air freshner as soon as i heard this story.

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They always seem to find a way to kill the black ppl. Eventually more blk ppl are gonna panic and struggle at the sight of police...because they'll be worried about being dead.

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Well, time for the test. The last notable accidental shooting deal in minnesota was a Somali-American minnesota police officer...accidentally shooting a quite white australian american woman. They labelled it third degree murder and manslaughter and he got 12.5 years. And this was right after Jeronimo Yanez shot and killed Philando Castile, to which he was acquitted of second degree manslaughter and 2 counts of dangerous discharge of a firearm.

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This is another example of why the tasers have to go.
They are many times used needlessly or just for the sake of dominance.
So far there are over 1000 documented cases of death by a taser.
They are lazy devices used for more command power.

Im sure she did it by accident, but its still a crime....manslaughter
They probably charge her with neglective use of a deadly weapon.....a petty misdemeanor :kopfpatsch: .


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So it was over airfreshners and expired tags??? Seriously? So theres a back log on tags in the city, and still they pull over a black man, to give him a ticket, but need to take him out of the car and cuff him while doing so????

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accident my ass.

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Accident meaning pure piss your pants incompetence.

and yea...plates and air fresheners.

its complete biased behavior. If it was someone they knew, like another cop, they'd never be stopped for it. Or maybe, it wouldn't happen if he was white in a nice car.


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White cops are always comfortable letting shots off into cars with passengers in them when the passengers are black. Philando Castile womans and his daughter were in the car with his woman in the fucking passenger seat when they let off 7 fucking shots at Castile in the drivers seat.

Daunte Wright, same deal, his girl in the car, we dont care, fire into the car, put them in danger.

Black ppl are ppl not to not only cops but to a rather high percentage of people in North America.

If MLK and Malcolm X never died, there would have been a massive un-integration campaign. Blk ppl need to separate and do they own thing man.

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that sounds great in theory, but what exactly does that entail??

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that sounds great in theory, but what exactly does that entail??


A whole lot of shit, way too much to list, and way too much for Black ppl to take on in this generation. Ground up. But they need to start, because the race problem in America will never change.

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Yall full of shit man.

Daunte is dead for his own fuckin reasons. If he would have simply complied he woukd have gotten a ticket or whatever and been ALIVE.

They warned him when he first tried to reach or whatever he was doing. The officer said very clearly dont do that. Then he tries to break free and tussle with fuckin police. NEVER a good idea.

Now the bitch screaming taser, and whether women should be cops is a whole other argument. But these cases are not all inclusive and I wish you guys would stop bunching them in. They should be looked at case by case.


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uh oh. :rofl:

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Second degree manslaughter. She'll probably do a few years and be out.


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Second degree manslaughter. She'll probably do a few years and be out.



Yea she don’t deserve much more.

I dont want to sound fucked up, or like that kid deserved to die. But in those situations sometimes its kill or be killed. I been on both sides. Held at gunpoint and put on the pavement by LA’s finest. Pulled over countless times. With homies and not. You just never gonna win that moment, in the moment.

I also know what it’s like trying to restrain or apprehend someone. My homie got his neck slit trying to escort this drunk dude out the club. I’ve had knives pulled on me, people try and swing on me. I doubt any of you have tried to apprehend someone. Shit gets real, real quick.


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Completely unsurprised by Ice's position. Completely unsurprised.

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ah the old "you're not a cop or you've never worked security you dont know how hard it is" defense. that train is never late. :lol: .....my boy has been a cop for over ten years. ive heard some of the wildest stories. he's fucked dudes up. laid dudes out. pulled out his gun plenty of times. even pissed on a dudes bald head one time. he's never murdered anyone or ever confused his taser for a gun. and he'd never bother pulling someone over for air freshner. with all due respect, fuck outta here.

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they'll go light on her as to not offend the feminist movement.

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Too many petty incidents lead to death.
And to look at it objectively it seems like you have to dissect the reaction process.
It also is helpful to think of the mindset of cops in what role they think they are there to perform.
Its also too complicated and so far out of the box to solve without offending the current process....
people will say "you ain't a cop and haven't been there."

The reaction of a cop is to go for their gun in situations of conflict. Its threatening to the core.
But should that be the case for anyone? Answer: NO.
So wtf for their safety and not the general population...they don't consider themselves civilians...above us. But they fucking aren't IMO. And I don't give a fuck what high pedestal someone wants to put them on but they are less than combat soldiers signed into the military IMO. Yet, some of these cowboys wreck havoc on USA-born and breed citizens in ways soldiers don't in other countries. There are units it law enforcement for combat like SWAT. But I can't be sure, as I am unsure too, a cop needs to have a sidearm as a standard piece of operating equipment on their person at all times. Most interactions are peaceful, but there rest that piece with their hand often resting on it.

The police unions have to go. So to does qualified immunity. There may need to be a different process that involves traffic stops if that is something that has to continue. I could give some examples that would be respectful and safe for both parties. It's threatening to simply be pulled over by nature. Cops come up on your blindside and it's unsettling. There also should be a criterion that authorizes the deployment of a weapon that would always be in the squad car/truck/whatever.

To change these processes and reactions would take 1000 page book to rewrite the mess law enforcement has become. But first, they have to be taken off the pedestal above the status of a citizen.

I'd even change the uniform to take them out that character of shade wearing badass.

Just a convo to get the dialog started. They wear guns because they fear for their safety and we run or become deceptive because we fear for ours. Both sides have their justified reason. But, its the immediate escalation of petty incidents because of unwillingness to understand or to put up with bullshit like this highway piracy horseshit to fund the coffers. This is a problem of posture as much as anything.

Anyway...enuf for now.


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Your boy fucked people yo Austin, probably cause he had to. But situations like this one above happen all the time. Im glad he hasn’t murdered anyone, yes the woman made a mistake, but just that quick her partner or herself could have been hurt


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Look at these two. They tried taser, and pepper spray. The guy still refused to get out the car and ends up shooting BOTH officers, killing one. This shit was just less than a year ago, but it didn’t make the fuckin news did it. They were too late pulling their pistol and look what happened.

So at the end of the day, i dont have a lot of love or sympathy for those who dont comply. And the news clearly has a fuckin agenda. They will blast a cop killing or mistreating a minority but wont report the thousands of other situations of cops getting fucked up.


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Your boy fucked people yo Austin, probably cause he had to. But situations like this one above happen all the time. Im glad he hasn’t murdered anyone, yes the woman made a mistake, but just that quick her partner or herself could have been hurt


Wtf do you think that pr0ves? Thats an example of one good fucking cop. And if he saw the knife and drew his gun I wpuld say shit.

But he aint draw it by accident going for a tazor. He aint shoot into a fkin car that had an innocent passenger in it.



How about you try to "poor cops you dont know what its like for them" out of this one Ice

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Ya lets look at it case by case and in the round.

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60 year old white man, in Minnesota. Dude drove off with the cop still on the side of the truck. No tazing. No attempt to shoot the man in the truck. No atttempt to shoot at the vechicle. Nothing.

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I dunno Ice. Look at the first seconds of the video. Do you think the cops handled the situation from start to tragedy for the best outcome for all? First of all the reason for pulling him over for failing to yield was weak. Expired tags are another issue. IMO..they were all too eager to use the taser. There was no immediate need to get him out of the car. Getting him out of the car was going to be necessary but there could certainly be a better procedure for "safety" if that is going on the lips of cops at every thought. The cops escalated the situation by yelling, opening the door, drawing weapons, and insisting he gets out of the car immediately.

It may have taken an hour to get him out of the car a more safe way. But if he isn't going to comply, why endanger everyone by initiating forceful and violent acts? The shooter wasn't justified, but the cops didn't do everything to ensure their safety or the shooter. He had a gun in the car, probably drugs (or maybe not), and knew he was going to jail. The cops simply thought they could force to do what they wanted in a short time. He didn't want to go to jail. If not saying he wasn't a criminal. But I am saying the situation was not handled correctly for safety's sake.

Seeing how he wouldn't comply, they could have blocked off his car front and rear. He can't sit there forever. As I said before, the book needs to be rewritten for traffic stops which seem to be the overwhelming catalyst for these shit shows. These petty stops are used abusively to deep dive into other matters. And, the pullover traffic stops are heavily biased.


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Those cops tried several means, except maybe just some smooth cool talking, which was more my style and was very effective.

I agree some retraining or how they hire needs to be changed. But im saying you can’t really take chances lr hesitate in their line of work. Usually when people dont want to get out of the car its for a reason, like they know they are dirty and going to jail. They often stall a lil bit before they plan an attack or run or whatever.

As far as why do they need to get people out of cars, we cannot speak on that unless we are there. Suspects will act suspicious, nervous, all type of shit. And it’s in the safety of everyone to get him out the car, search him and the vehicle. Whether he be peddling drugs, guns, whatever. Often the same people with no license and shit like that have other criminal records.


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